Tucker Carlson, editor of the Daily Caller and Fox News contributor, appeared on Fox News Wednesday to weigh in on SB 1062, the controversial Arizona bill which would have allowed businesses to discriminate against gays and lesbians. In his opinion, requiring a business open to the public to be non-discriminatory is akin to fascism.
“It’s pretty simple,” Carlson said, “if you want to have a gay wedding, fine, go ahead. If I don’t want to bake you a cake for your gay wedding that’s okay too, or should be, that’s called tolerance. But when you try to force me to bake a cake for your gay wedding and threaten me with prison if I don’t, that’s called fascism.”
Do you see where we are headed here? If I want to discriminate, you should be tolerant of it, that’s the American way and if you want to interfere with my right to discriminate then you are a fascist.
He goes on to cite the case of the Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colorado which was cited for discrimination after refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple’s wedding saying, “I don’t know a single gay person who would want someone to be sent to prison for not baking a cake for his wedding.”
This is hyperbole, of course. No one has been threatened with prison for discriminating against gays or anyone else, they may face civil penalties or the suspension or revocation of business licenses but there would be no prison term involved.
Alan Colmes tried to show him the weakness of his argument and pointed out that if you are a business open to the public, you cannot be allowed to say that you are going to discriminate and refuse to serve people who are of a particular race, religion or sexual orientation. He noted also that three of the state Senators who voted for the bill have expressed regrets and that many other prominent Republicans have called for a veto of the bill (Governor Brewer did veto it on Wednesday).
Carlson didn’t retreat an inch. He admitted that those calling for the veto were afraid but said, “that doesn’t change the core argument here and that is should you send someone to prison for not baking a cake for someone else’s gay wedding and the answer unequivocally is no.”
Colmes attempted to ask if a business should be allowed to refuse to serve blacks but Carlson called the comparison “ludicrous” and said that there is no similarity, insinuating that being black is something one cannot change but being gay is a choice. He then proceeds to compare the business owner’s right to choose not to serve gays to his right to say that you cannot come into his store naked, or use vulgar language on the premises, which of course is a completely rational comparison.
Watch the exchange in the video below.