How far gone are creationists? Just listen to this Louisiana creationist, who seems to think that it was scientists that burned men like Giordano Bruno at the stake.
State Senator Elbert Guillory is so far out to sea that no hydrodynamic process can save him. While attempting to make a case for teaching “both sides” of the creation/evolution “debate,” he made the remarks that were met with incredulity, stunned looks, and gentle corrections.
“There was a time, sir, when scientists thought that the world was flat. And if you get to the end of it, you’d fall off. There was another time when scientists thought that the sun revolved around the world,” Guillory explained. “And they always thought to ensure that anyone who disagreed with their science was a heretic. People were burned for not believing that the world was flat. People were really badly treated.”
Guillory also provided some gardening tips: “Knowledge only grows when people can talk about and have this intellectual back-and-forth, this discourse, with all ideas on the table.”
Onlookers laughed as fellow State Senator Jean-Paul J. Morrell (D) gently corrected his — misguided — comrade:
Just a quick addendum to my good friend Sen. Guillory’s comments. Actually, you talk about the world being flat and not the center of the universe? [It was] Galileo and it was the Church that locked him up for nine years for advocating that theory. So, although I appreciate your comments about [how] there are alternative theories, when you look at history, oftentimes, when science pushes the envelope, the leading person to lock that person up, is oftentimes religious leaders.
It wasn’t just the Catholic Church. Martin Luther, the founder of Modern Protestantism, reportedly referred to Copernicus — the originator of the heliocentric model — as “that fool” and cited the Battle of Gibeon in the Book of Joshua as proof for a geocentric model, while John Calvin was a flat earther. Protestantism was anti-science right from the start, complete with empty Biblical citations.
At least Catholics managed the illusion of intellectual integrity by aping Aristotle and canonizing their own paid philosophers like Thomas Aquinas.
Morrell added that, “When you talk about a fair exchange of ideas, as long as those ideas are based in fact,” and the proceeded to quote deGrasse Tyson, saying, “I want to say a quick quote that I’ve been saving for this measure. It’s from Neil deGrasse Tyson, who I’m sure many of you are familiar with: ‘The good thing about science is that it’s true whether you believe in it or not.’”
The motion, SB 74, was tabled for further discussion at a later date.
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[h/t and cover picture RS]