Religious fundamentalism is kind of like the massive afros of the 1970s, or the parachute pants of the 1990s — no matter how far off the course of logic, reason or sanity you take yours, someone else is always going to come along and do it bigger.
Phil Robertson, like most conservatives these days, is an ideological fashionista with an endless supply of well-reasoned psychosis on tap. On this episode of The Ed Show, Schultz tears into Robertson for reasoning on Hannity that where ISIS is concerned, the “only option now is to either convert or kill them.” And Hannity, oddly enough, never once interrupts to scream his opinion over Robertson’s, nor does he cut off his mic for saying something Hannity doesn’t agree with. Strange.
It’s almost as though Hannity were working for a guy who secretly stood to make billions in oil money from an Israel-based all-out Crusade against Muslims. Also weird.
Of course, one wonders how Robertson can miss his own resemblance to ISIS and the Taliban’s own religious fundamentalists. All it would take is one look in the mirror — substitute a turban for that camo headband, and let Bin Laden’s beard do the rest of the work.
Seriously…try to tell yourself that Phil isn’t about one ill-timed towel and bathrobe away from a drone strike. And that’s before he opens his mouth.
But, of course, we don’t want to limit Robertson’s ideological horizons. His “convert or die” strategy isn’t the sole domain of ISIS. There’s quite a bit of historical precedent behind it, well before ISIS. So, here you go, Phil — after the video, for fun and history’s sake, a few role models. Just in case you should ever decide to try on a different pattern of trendy, conservative parachute pants. Because if there’s one thing we know for certain it’s that, when it comes to religious conversions…
Hammer Time never ends.
Ed Schultz slams Phil Robertsons’ ISIS-like fundamentalism.
Here’s the video footage with Ed Schultz slamming Phil Robertson’s ISIS-like religious fundamentalism, via Mediaite.
Here’s a history of religious fundamentalism as practiced by various faiths, copied from Wikipedia entries:
Rise of Christianity in Rome
In 392 Emperor Theodosius I decreed that Christianity was the only legal religion of the Roman Empire, and forbidding pagan practices by law:
It is Our will that all the peoples who are ruled by the administration of Our Clemency shall practice that religion which the divine Peter the Apostle transmitted to the Romans….The rest, whom We adjudge demented and insane, shall sustain the infamy of heretical dogmas, their meeting places shall not receive the name of churches, and they shall be smitten first by divine vengeance and secondly by the retribution of Our own initiative”
Forcible Conversion by Charlemagne
Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniae (Latin “Ordinances concerning Saxony”) was a legal code issued by Charlemagne and promulgated amongst the Saxons during the Saxon Wars in 785 AD. The laws of the Capitulatio de partibus Saxoniaeprescribe death for various Saxon infringements, including refusing to convert from their native Germanic paganism to Christianity.
The Massacre of Verden was a massacre of 4,500 captive rebel Saxons in October 782. During the Saxon Wars, the Saxons rebelled against Charlemagne‘s invasion and subsequent attempts to Christianize them from their native Germanic paganism.
Pope Innocent III
Pope Innocent III pronounced in 1201 that even if torture and intimidation had been employed in receiving the sacrament, one nevertheless:
…does receive the impress of Christianity and may be forced to observe the Christian Faith as one who expressed a conditional willingness though, absolutely speaking, he was unwilling. … they might properly be forced to hold to the faith which they had accepted perforce, lest the name of the Lord be blasphemed, and lest they hold in contempt and consider vile the faith they had joined.
After the Reconquista, so called “New Christians” were those inhabitants (Sephardic Jews or Mudéjar Muslims) during the Middle Ages and the Early Modern Era who were baptized under coercion and in the face of murder, becoming forced converts from Islam and forced converts from Judaism.
The Spanish Inquisition generated much wealth and income for the church and individual inquisitors by confiscating the property of the persecutees or selling them into slavery.
Religious persecution took place by the Portuguese in Goa, India from 16th to the 17th century. The natives of Goa, most of them Hindus were subjected to severe torture and oppression by the zealous Portuguese rulers, and missionaries and forcibly converted to Christianity.
Native American Boarding Schools
The government paid religious societies to provide education to Native American children on reservations. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) founded additional American Indian boarding schools based on the assimilation model of the Carlisle Indian Industrial School.
Children were usually immersed in European-American culture through appearance changes with haircuts, were forbidden to speak their native languages, and traditional names were replaced by new European-American names. The experience of the schools was often harsh, especially for the younger children who were separated from their families. In numerous ways, they were encouraged or forced to abandon their Native American identities and cultures.
The Baptist Church of Tripura is alleged to have supplied the NLFT with arms and financial support and to have encouraged the murder of Hindus, particularly infants, as a means to depopulate the region of all Hindus. In 2009, the Assam Times reported that about fifteen armed Hmar militants, members of Manmasi National Christian Army, tried to force Hindu residents of Bhuvan Pahar, Assam to convert to Christianity. A few Christian evangelists in India have been accused of forced conversion of Hindus, and some of them have been for allegedly converting others by force
Forced conversions occurred under the Hasmonean Empire. The Idumaens were forced to convert to Judaism, either by threats of exile, or threats of death, depending on the source. In Eusebíus, Christianity, and Judaism Harold W. Attridge claims that “there is reason to think that Josephus’ account of their conversion is substantially accurate.” He also writes, “That these were not isolated instances but that forced conversion was a national policy is clear from the fact that Alexander Jannaeus (ca 80 BCE) demolished the city of Pella in Moab, “because the inhabitants would not agree to adopt the national custom of the Jews.’”
William Horbury has written that “The evidence is best explained by postulating that an existing small Jewish population in Lower Galilee was massively expanded by the forced conversion in c.104 BCE of their Gentile neighbours in the north.”
That Time the Jews Slaughtered 22,000 Christians Who Refused to Convert
In 2009 the BBC defended a claim that in 524 a.d., the Yemeni Jewish Himyar tribe, led by King Dhu Nuwashad offered Christian residents of a village in Saudi Arabia the choice between conversion to Judaism or death, and that 20,000 Christians had then been massacred stating that “The production team spoke to many historians over 18 months, among them Nigel Groom, who was our consultant, and Professor Abdul Rahman Al-Ansary “ Inscriptions documented by Yousef himself shows the great pride he expressed after massacring more than 22,000 Christians in Zafar and Najran.
The Arabs came to conquer Sindh under command ofMuhammad bin Qasim in 711 CE. This was an easy task, as the people of Sindh had been practicing Buddhism and Hinduahimsa for many years, and battle was sinful. The Arab Muslims quickly destroyed the Sindhi forts and conquered Sindh. Many Hindus chose to flee Sindh and move to Punjab and Kutch. Those that stayed behind were asked to convert to Islam. For those that did not comply to this request, heavy taxes were levied on them and their properties were taken from them.
The Jizya (poll tax) was the most important factor in the mass conversion to Islam, the tax paid by all non-Muslims (Dhimmis) in Islamic empires.
I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah
Ottoman Empire — The Jannissaries, Elite “Slave” Bodyguards of Islam
A form of forced conversion became institutionalized during the Ottoman Empire in the practice ofdevşirme, a human levy in which Christian boys were seized and collected from their families (usually in the Balkans), enslaved, converted to Islam, and then trained as elite military unit within the Ottoman army or for high-ranking service to the sultan. From the mid to late 14th, through early 18th centuries, thedevşirme–janissary system enslaved an estimated 500,000 to one million non–Muslim adolescent males.
Mughal ruler Aurangzeb cherished the ambition of converting India into a land of Islam. For this, he encouraged forced religious conversions and destroyed thousands of Hindu temples during his reign. During Tipu Sultan’s invasion ofMalabar in the late 18th century, he forcefully converted over 400,000 Hindus to Islam. During the Moplah Riotsof 1921 in Kerala, Muslim Mappilas forcibly converted thousands of Hindus to Islam and killed all those who refused to apostatise. During the Noakhali genocide ofHindus in 1946, several thousand Hindus were forcibly converted to Islam by Muslim mobs.
United Nations Refugee Agency and other global human rights groups have published several reports describing forced conversion to Islam in nations with majority Muslim and large regional Muslim populations. Many Hindus in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have been forcefully converted to Islam by Islamic extremist groups in the region. Similarly, Christian women have been abducted and forced to convert to Islam in Pakistan.
A Maldivian man, Mohammed Nazim, was assaulted in 2010 after he attended a conference on religion and, during the question and answer session, asked questions on Islam, while confessing that he was born to Muslim parents, has read a translation of Qur’an, but does not believe in religion, that he is atheist. The conference gathering of about 11,000 demanded that the atheist be attacked and killed. Maldives’ constitution stipulates Maldives citizens must be Muslims. The Maldivian man was arrested, given a chance to return to Islam or face criminal charges with death penalty. In prison, he agreed to return to Islam.
In Nigeria, the Islamist group Boko Haram has demanded Christian women to convert to Islam or die.
In Iraq, the Islamic extremist group ISIS has demanded non-Muslims to covert to Islam or face execution.
Just recently, Phil Robertson said pretty much the same thing.