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Breaking: Harry Reid Calls Cliven Bundy Supporters What They Are: Domestic Terrorists! (Video)

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV)  spoke during at the Las Vegas Review-Journal “Hashtags & Headlines” event on Thursday denouncing the supporters of Cliven Bundy as “domestic terrorists” and saying that Bundy “thumb(s) his nose at authority.”

“It is an issue that we cannot let go, just walk away from,” Reid said repeating what he said of the situation on Monday.

Senator Reid addressed statements made by some of Bundy’s supporters to have “children and women lined up because if anyone got hurt we wanted to make sure they got hurt first, because we want the federal government hurting women and children. … What if others tried the same thing?”

Cliven Bundy does not recognize the United States,” Reid said.  “He says that the United States is a foreign government. He doesn’t pay his taxes. He doesn’t pay his fees. And he doesn’t follow the law. He continues to thumb his nose at authority.”

Bundy and his family declined an invitation by the Review-Journal to respond.

Reid pointed out that the Bureau of Land Management has two court orders, with one decision written by a very conservative judge allowing them to round up and remove the 500 to 900 head of cattle belonging to Bundy he has been illegally grazing on public lands.

Reid also said that he had met over the last week with several groups including the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association who have declined to support Bundy in his defiant stand against the government.

Senator Reid says he has also spoken with Attorney General Eric Holder, the FBI and sheriff Douglas Gillespie, and that a task force is being put together to deal with the situation.

Watch the video below.

h/t:  Review-Journal

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About Bob Cull

I'm retired and live in the Finger Lakes region of Upstate NY. I have strong opinions and my political bent has not changed since I was in high school. Most of my family thinks that I need to find a "real" hobby to fill my time in retirement, but I am content to share my opinions with others and exercise my "right" as a cranky old retired dude to express my views--which are based on many years of real world experience.
  • https://www.facebook.com/erik.kenney.3 Erik Kenney
    • Bob Cull

      Nice try, Erik, but no cigar. Those pictures are BLATANTLY being misrepresented, they are not from Gold Butte OBVIOUSLY, those are PIGS NOT COWS. A blind man can see that. So typical, you guys think that you can tell blatant lies and no one will notice.

  • Ronald Nolette

    Well Harry Reid better watch who he wishes to sic the law after. Since Harry Reid has been majority leader of the Senate he has been a criminal . He has broken the law many times. Harry Reid also is a liar- For Bundy has paid all his income taxes. He is just protesting the Fed. Govt starting to charge him in 1993 what his family had gotten for just county and state fees for decades.

    I don’t agree with the way Bundy is protesting what he considers unconstitutional fees, but the folks that have gone to his aide are not terrorists:

    ter·ror·ism
    [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    2.
    the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3.
    a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

    They have done none of these and if Reid is going to redefine words (as he is wont to do) then we must raise Pres. Obama to teh position of grand high Kleagle of all the Klu Klux Klan chapters.

    Also they are not guilty of sedition either:

    Bundy has admitted that if the Sheriff comes to arrest him he will go peacegully, but he doesn’t recognize the BLM as the lawful overseer of what was Nevada land till 1993

    • Bob Cull

      Talk about “low information!” Your post is absolutely devoid of FACTS, Ronald.

      Let’s start with your claim that the ARMED yahoos who are out there to intimidate representatives of the government are not terrorists. Read that definition again, genius, no violence is required to qualify as a terrorist. They are using the THREAT of violence to get their own way.

      It is not the fees alone that Bundy objects to, he feels he has the right to run as many cattle on that land as he wants, he was allowed 150 head and he is running between 500 and 900 head on DESERT land. That is why his permit was revoked in 1993, it had nothing to do with fees.

      That was not state land until 1993, it was NEVER state land it has ALWAYS been federal land, it was purchased by the U.S. government in the Mexican Cession of 1848. The number of head allowed on the land was reduced in 1993 to protect the land and the endangered desert tortoise.

      The Executive Order directing the BLM to collect grazing fees was signed in 1986 by your hero, St. Ronald of San Clemente.

      Try getting some real facts, not the lies told by the likes of Breitbart, WND et al.

      • https://www.facebook.com/erik.kenney.3 Erik Kenney

        Go further Bob. and look at some of the FACTS that other sites are reporting. Sites like Info Wars, American Patriots, Modern American Revolution etc. They have some fascinating reporting on what actually caused this fiasco. Don’t forget that the Bundy family has been using this land for WELL OVER A CENTURY until Reid decided in 1993 that he wanted to use President Reagan’s law from 1986 and force ranchers off the land and sell it to the Chinese for that solar energy plant (they already have EVIDENCE of that would be sale so good luck trying to refute that!). The Tortoise thing has already been debunked even by your friends at CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, and various other REAL news media outlets, as well as AATTP!!!! (ouch)!! Hary Reid IS A CRIMINAL that too is COMMON KNOWLEDGE!! He is under investigation for SEVERAL crimes against the people of Nevada, as well as the people of the UNITED States of America. (again…have fun trying to find evidence to the contrary). I do not know what field you worked in when you retired, but you really should follow your families advice and get a more meaningful hobby!! Insulting someone who disagrees with you is infantile, not productive and is CERTAINLY NOT going to help you and your cause!! Ending your rant full of opinion based false flags disguised as facts with a sentence….”Try getting some real facts, not the lies told by the likes of Breitbart, WND et al….” while “entertaining at best is in no way indicative of a MAN who knows he has bettered a competitor in a debate…instead it reeks of a cowardly keyboard warrior ready to TRY to intimidate someone with what that little man THINKS IS intellect!!

        • Bob Cull

          You want me to get some “facts” from Info Wars, American Patriots, Modern American Revolution? ROFLMMFAO!!

          I have written several pieces on this since it started and I have thoroughly researched every one of them. When the only place you can find those “facts” is on those site, sites well known for their willingness to play fast and loose with the facts, then one can safely assume that it is not factual.

          Those photos on the link you provided are pigs, period end, I grew up on a farm and I promise you I can tell the difference between a pig and a cow, all you had to do was look at the tails and hooves, but the snouts were also apparent.

          All you have done is prove exactly what I suspected, you are a tin foil hat wearing disciple of Alex Jones and the truth is that he doesn’t believe what he is saying, he’s laughing at you suckers who are lapping up his slop designed to appeal to the paranoid and uneducated — laughing all the way to the bank. The only “conviction” that any of the right wing talkers hold is the conviction that they will never be rich enough.

          • nolidad

            Well it is now in the open why a United Staqtes Senator would call his constituents who have made no verbal threats, were within the law to carry their weapons with them without pointing them at any federal employee, werre within their first amendment rights to freely assemble on someones private property- domestic terrorists. His osn who is in Nevada politics is working with CHINESE to build a solar farm on that land (read money greasing the Reids palms). So all this slandering of fellow citizens who broke no laws (except the Bundys by not paying grazing fees) is all about Reid making nice with his son, making money by selling national lands to CHINESE.

          • Bob Cull

            Harry Reids son is not working with the Chinese or anyone else to build a solar farm on that land, Nolidad, and he never was. The site for that proposed project was nowhere near Bundy’s ranch.

            Bundy does not own the land that the cattle were to be removed from and NEVER has, it is federally owned and has been since the Mexican Cession of 1848 (I’m getting tired of having to tell each and every one of you people that individually).

            As for them “legally” assembling, that is plain BS. It is never legal to assemble with the intent to intimidate and that was their intention, to intimidate government employees doing their job. Contrary to what they believe and apparently you believe, the second amendment was NOT created to allow for the overthrow of the government nor to facilitate insurrection.

          • nolidad

            Well did some extra checking and I apologize- it was only semi fact based story and ended in 2013. I apologize for my error. However- Harry Reid being so morally outraged over Clive Bundy not following the law and spouoting nationally like he does, why does he not spout the same thing i reference to Lois Lernner and Eric Holder who are both lawbreakers right now (both have been found in contempt of congress- that makes them outlaws as well) When he calls on Lerner and Holder to obey the law- then his sense of righteousness against Bundy will carry more than a micro gram of weight.

          • nolidad

            Well I agree with you Bob the second amendment is not a right to seek a coup d’etat. Bundy is not seeking to overthrow the government He never said so- He just does not recognize the Federal claim to the land. he is willing to turn himself in to the County Sheriff.

            Also everyone who has come to the Bundy Farm- I do not know of any legitimate claim that they are seeking or threatening to overthrow the government or have they verbalized defiance against the government. Bearing arms of course can be implied violence- but that is not a legal real threat, Unless they have actually pointed the weapons and threatened to shoot

            Bundy has made a foolish stand, but there is far more going on than just trying to collect $1.2 million in back fees, penalties and interest.

          • Bob Cull

            Actually, Nolidad, he has actually said that he does not recognize the federal government, period end, not their claim to the land that has always been under federal ownership since 1848. He has said on several occasions that he just plain does not recognize the federal government saying that he is a citizen of Clark county.

            You are right to say that there is more than the collection of fees, but I suspect you have a much more sinister idea of what that something more is. That something more is the removal of the trespassing cattle from that land. He does not actually owe grazing fees as his permit to graze was revoked more than 20 years ago, what he owes is fines and interest on them since he has ignored the courts for all that time.

          • nolidad

            Well Bob he does pledge allegiance, he pays his federal taxes, he complies with fed laws (except grazing), He said explicitly that he does not recognize the fed govt. rights over Clark Counties. Reid is lying when he says Bundy doesn’t recognize the US. Multiple interviews attest tot hat.

            I just wonder why a land dispute requires 200 armed federal agents BEFORE others supporting Bundy showed up. Yes it is spinning out of control and yes Bundy isa wrong. But I know the fed Whether lib or conservative there are always something underneath going on when they meet a small time criminal like Bundy with such overwhelming force. Remember people came to Bundy’s side after the fed came with such force.

          • Bob Cull

            As a matter of fact, Nolidad, Bundy has said on multiple occasions that he does not recognize the federal government. I have watched multiple interviews where he clearly stated that as his position.

            I have written several articles on this situation and done extensive research and the only place that I have found reference to 200 armed men and “snipers” is on far right sites known for, shall we say stretching the truth. The only thing that I have been able to confirm is that there were uniformed officers there who were in fact armed as are all law enforcement.

            That said, if they did have that many armed officers there it was because Bundy threatened them with violence when he was informed that the trespassing cattle were going to be rounded up and confiscated.

            Even members of his own family have said that he is delusional, one cousin said, “He’s just in a world of his own. I don’t think he’s working on all four cylinders.”

            The comparison with contempt of Congress does not hold up there is no similarity particularly in the cases that you are referring to, these are clearly politically motivated. In the case of Lois Lerner there is no basis whatsoever, one cannot be held in contempt for taking the 5th, it is a Constitutional protection.

            As usual, in the matter of outlaw welfare rancher Bundy the right is 100% WRONG.

          • nolidad

            Well Bob- Lois Lerner did not take the fifth- she testified before Congress on her own behalf at her own insistence(she called it a simple statement) making 18 specific points. Once you have testified (she was under oath) you waive your rights to the fifth without having charges filed against you. During a trial at any time, you may claim the fifthe , but if you have made statements under oath, then you lose the protection against charges filed against you for contempt. So congress was and is well within its authority to hold Lois Lerner in Contempt.

          • Bob Cull

            You are just as WRONG as the Congressmen who made the claim that by making an opening statement Lerner had waived her fifth amendment rights.

            Had she been the defendant in a criminal proceeding where she has the choice to testify or not she could not testify and then refuse to undergo cross examination but she had no choice in this matter, she had been compelled to testify and therefore it does not matter that she made an opening statement and then declined to answer questions, even if she had chosen to answer questions she was free to invoke the fifth at any time.

            http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-lois-lerner-did-not-waive-her-fifth-amendment-rights-by-making-an-opening-statement/

          • nolidad

            yes Bob people can testify and make statements under oath, and then invoke the fifth any time they wish, but like Bundy in refusing to pay his grazing fees- they can be found in contempt. Once you have testified-you can be found in contempt of court for refusing to further testify. If you plead the fifth from the onset- you cannot be held in contempt. Harry Reid should also be arrested . First for publicly declaring that Bundy did not pay his taxes. For him to say that (which is not true BTW) would mean he violated federal law and
            illegally searched Bundys tax records (a US Senator is not allowed) secondly because it is not true- he could be sued for slander and defamation of character- because there is no outstanding IRS claim for back federal taxes against Bundy. All Bundy is federally guilty of is not paying federal grazing fees from 1993-1998. After 1998 the grazing rights were bought by Clark County and they retired those rights. So after 1998 illegal grazing was a Nevadas issue not a federal issue.

          • Bob Cull

            Your ignorance is monumental, Nolidad. No you CANNOT be held in contempt for invoking the fifth!

            And for the last time, THAT IS NOT CLARK COUNTY LAND, OR NEVADA LAND IT IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN FEDERAL LAND.

            There is nothing more maddening than trying to educate the willfully ignorant.

          • nolidad

            Bob it is settled law- you are allowed to take the fifth. If you have not entered any testimony at all- you cannot be held in contempt. Once you have testified (As Lois Lerner did under oath in her “opening statements”), before congress she has waived her right to not testify and can be held in contempt of congress. If she kept her mouth shut she would not have been able to have been found in contempt.You have to remember laws in congress apply to hearings in congress especially when it involves fed employees. She can invoke the fifthe after she testified but Congress can legally find her in contempt if she testified prior to the invocation.

            As for who owns the grazing rights to teh land Bundy was on:

            http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/deserts/nevada/pdfs/Cattle-grazing-in-Gold-Butte-area-11-29-2010.pdf.

            Clark County bought and retired teh grazing rights tot eh land Bundy was using in 1998.

          • nolidad

            As for the Armed feds- they arrived first with 200 people with pistols, rifles and semi automatic weapons, long before the Bundy supporters starting arriving- that is why many of them arrived for it was the show of overkill by the fed. I am not saying it was right, just reporting the timeline.

          • Bob Cull

            So you think that every single armed officer that BLM has was sent to Nevada? The BLM has about 200 uniformed rangers TOTAL. They would have been remiss had they not sent a sufficient force to guarantee the safety of all who were involved in this PERFECTLY LEGAL action. Bundy told them when he was notified that if he did not remove his cattle the BLM would that he and his family were armed and that they were prepared to resist with deadly force. The entire band of outlaws should have been jailed at that point, you do not have the right to resist law enforcement officers with or without violence.

          • nolidad

            Bob I also have to comment on the fact that the clip of Reid talks about how we cannot let people go free while flauntring the law (a paraphrase) I wish he meant it more than just to Bundy. For he doesn’t hold the same to people found in contempt of congress, nor to peopel who violated the law and are remaining to roam freely by entering this country illegally.

  • Jim w

    Send in the drones

    • http://gravatar.com/czmdm czmdm

      Wrong! C-130 Gunship. Love watching the Gatling tracers at night.

  • Leron

    Don’t forget they are also seditionists. Thank you Harry for calling it like it is.

  • http://google nina

    Bundy is a thief and the leader of a gang of traitors as well. He should be in prison.

    • Bob Cull

      I couldn’t agree more, Nina.

  • steve

    now, how about some law enforcement; attache his ranch, garnish his tax returns (I’m sure he’s all for getting tax refunds from a government he chooses to ignore. He’s diiisobeyed numerous court orders, why the hell isn’t he in jail, and why is he allowed to keep cattle?

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