Lee Camp, host of the Moment of Clarity show, was nice enough to dedicate some time to speak with AATTP. Lee is legendary in some circles: Not only does he work tirelessly to spread awareness of corruption inherent within our system and of dangerous ecological terrors brought about by our friends at Monsanto, the blight that is fracking, and all of the other horrors contained within our world, but he keeps it as much fun as it can be!
He has helped educate many people about an untold number of issues through Moment of Clarity and his various appearances on news shows. Some may remember him for his absolute decimation of FOX News during an appearance there (video of that at the bottom.)
On a whim, I asked Mr. Camp if he would be willing to talk to me for a bit. I was delightfully surprised when he responded favorably. I found Lee to be a very nice, down-to-earth guy who just f**king hates the direction in which the world is going–and he has some pretty good ideas, too!
AATTP: Well, I just want to kick things off– The Tea Party has hijacked much of the Republican Party. A lot of Republican lawmakers have publically stated they are afraid to do anything that could anger the fringe end of the G.O.P. Do you think the fracturing of the Republican Party is a good thing for the country?
LEE: I will say this, you know my opinion for several years now has been that on the larger structural issues, the Democrats and the Republicans are not different on wall street or the environment, and environmentally we are driving off a cliff. Neither party really is doing anything, and the democrats are basically moderate Republicans. However, this government shutdown shows how crazy the far right wing is. They’re completely willing to really… yeah, to hijack everything–to sink the ship, because they don’t care anymore. There’s not actually any allegiance to the country. It’s allegiance to the business interests. They’re getting funded by the Koch brothers…those two guys are their entire constituency. They don’t give a shit about anything larger than that and that’s how you end up in these jams where even the republican party is telling them, “Hey, we gotta pass this thing, we gotta reopen the government” and they don’t care, really, it seems. But yeah in terms of if it’s good or bad for the country I don’t know. I mean, I know that something… HUGE needs to change, and what they want to change is… horrible. But, I don’t know, when everything’s kind of insane it wakes people up.
AATTP: Well, you know you mentioned the shutdown, and that was a very good point. One thing I wanted to run across you, “The Weeping Cheeto (Boehner)” finally caved; he urged the House to support the Senate bill to reopen the government. Now, that reopens the government until January 15th, raises the debt limit until February 7th. January 15th is the day an additional 21 billion in budget cuts is going to happen due to the sequester. What do you think the extreme right’s end game is for all this?
Lee: Their end game is to handicap the government enough that so many social programs are not working, that they can then say, “Oh well they’re not working. We need to get rid of them.” It’s basically “let’s make public schools as bad as we can, then say they’re not working.” “Let’s make Social security as bad as we can so we can say it’s not working.” So it’s just, you know, we just handicap and knock the knees out from under a lot of programs in the U.S. and then, they can privatize them. Then, they can continue to take everything– the wealth and hard work of the 1% or the .1%. It’s the last vestiges of a full-on pillaging of our society.
AATTP: You know what I defiantly agree with you there, and what you mentioned about education that’s happening right now in Philadelphia. It’s scary…
LEE: Right, and all you have to do is look at the pie chart of our discretionary spending. When you spend 57% on military and 6% on education what do you think you care for more? You care about war more. We now have brilliant drones and teenagers who can’t be near scissors without supervision. You just end up with very smart bombs and very dumb kids. Again, 57% on military 5% on housing, so this is 11 times as much on how to blow up houses than how to build houses.
AATTP: Right. Now, you’ve said many times, and I’m with you on this, you want to get monetary corruption out of our government. Do you feel there is an alternative to legalized bribery–SuperPAC contributions for example–that allows candidates to have resources they need to get and stay in office, that won’t be detrimental to our society?
LEE: Well, the alternative is public financing of elections, and that’s all the money you get. And if you work here in New York City you’re seeing it with our mayoral race. You know, the reason that someone who’s backed by Bloomberg, meaning Christine Quinn, lost to someone not backed by a billionaire, is because we have 6 to 1 matching funds from the city to each candidate, as long as you get to a certain amount–and therefore the city’s paying for the election rather than the billionaires paying for the election. You can end up with someone like De Blaiso beating out someone backed by billionaires–and you know, I’m not acting like De Blasio’s a poor guy– but he wasn’t a billionaire candidate. That shows how the system can work–where, compared to just crazy money –this flood of cash into the system. I mean, one guy, Sheldon Adelson, the casino magnate spent more in two months during a Republican primary on Newt Gingrich than the entire Labour Party spent in England on the 2010 general election. THAT’S the difference between our election system and other industrialized countries. You know, the amount we spent on the last election was more than the Gross Domestic Product of Fiji, and what did Fiji spend on their election? I think it was a couple of geese.
You know, the Supreme Court is getting ready to knock away the final remaining flood gates. About 24 of the 25 flood gates are open and now that the 25th one is this McCutcheon lawsuit that’s about to be seen by Supreme Court. They’re likely going to knock that one down, getting rid of the last vestige of any kind of limits on financing, and the reason people seem to not be too worried about this I think they say, “Ok, well the candidate gets all that money, and what do they do? They buy advertisements, and if I don’t like the candidate I don’t vote for them.”, but that’s not true. Advertisements work. They all F**KING work. You have proof they work–no one’s got a good job, but everyone has $40 for a blanket with sleeves… because of good advertising, right? That’s how you end up with an economy where no one has jobs, and everyone has Snuggies. That’s how that happens, because advertising works. The person with the most money wins 93% of the time in the house, and 80% of the time in the senate.
So, you could be the worst candidate in the world, you could be the most evil person ever to live, but if you have the most money you are going to win 93% of the time.
AATTP: You know, that has basically proven to be true in our society. I definitely see where you are coming from there you know, a colleague, Richard Rowe, and I were discussing this. I was actually just curious about your opinion: Would you favor a tax law that would treat publically traded corporations as foreign entities, and placed them on a different–and higher–tax standard than privately owned small businesses?
Lee: That’s interesting. I haven’t heard of the “foreign entity” idea, but I’ll tell you, this may have similar ramifications. What I really would support, and we used to have it from what I hear in around the 1900’s or something. Corporations had to have charters to be in the city. The city had to agree that they wanted that corporation there, and if the corporation was not treating the city right the city can revoke the charter. So, all of a sudden you have corporations who have to behave in a way the citizens want. If they pollute the water, they will lose their charter, and lose their ability to operate there, and any common sense would going to tell you that’s the way to keep doing it. That the citizens can vote to get rid of corporations, but we have long since done away with that, so, the corporation can cause cancer or make our tap water flammable, and it doesn’t matter. But, then again people should have a positive view of this thing. If your tap water is flammable, then you get flammable water balloon fights, which are MUCH more exciting.
AATTP: I would be remiss if I didn’t ask you: Who do you think will be the Democratic and Republican nominees in the 2016 election?
Lee: 2016 I imagine the Democratic nominee will be Hilary Clinton and the Republican nominee will be blikkity-bloo millionaire and it doesn’t f**king matter because…well, it matters on the things like gay marriage and abortion and women’s rights–however, if we keep voting for that we allow the continued pillaging of the world that we see, and there’s not a lot of time left. There’s not a lot of time to keep playing this stupid little game, where it’s just the Democrats and the Republicans. I mean there are other options, there are other ways to behave on this planet. The Democrats are the lesser of the two evils—however, if we just keep voting for the lesser of the two evils, we are going off the climate change cliff, and other environmental catastrophe cliffs as well– maybe a little slower but not much. You know that 2047 a lot of your favorite cities are going to be underwater? One of the ones is going to be Tampa, and I don’t really like Tampa so that’s fine by me.
AATTP: Just for fun, before we say goodbye I just want to do a little bit of word association with you. One word answers. Ok?
LEE: Me do one word answers?
AATTP: Yes. You doing one word answers, because it would be hilarious.
LEE: Alright, well I might we’ll see.
AATTP: Alright, Ted Cruz?
LEE: Adult diapers.
AATTP: John Boehner?
LEE: Adult diapers.
AATTP: Ted Nugent?
Lee: Rectum snake. I’m going to need “two-word” answers, but I hope that’s alright.
AATTP: Trickle-down effect?
AATTP: And Rupert Murdoch?
Lee: Hmmmmm…. Adult Diapers!
AATTP: Well, Lee this has been great I’ve been honestly watching your videos for years. You’ve done a great job of educating a lot of my friends, and you keep it entertaining—which is hard to do with politics. I really appreciate what you’re doing for the world.
Lee: Good luck, and keep speaking out!
Lee, we at AATTP just want to thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. Your insights are always valuable, and will continue to be an inspiration to those of us who always want to learn a little bit more–and be entertained while doing so!
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In honor of Lee, here’s some of our favorite moments with him:
Lee decimates FOX News, calling it a “festival of ignorance,” and a “parade of propaganda,” greatly irritating the talking heads.
Lee explains that he’s a little bit racist. There’s an entire group of people he doesn’t think should have the same rights as the rest of us: Corporations!
Lee talks with Dylan Ratigan about 15 things the mainstream media isn’t covering.
Lee explains how Iceland handled its financial crisis successfully (unlike America!)